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Growth by Design

Conversations about how the world's best apps grow – with the founders, product leaders, and growth teams behind them. Real systems, real experiments, real lessons.

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15M users, 20 people, now agents - the thinking behind the switch

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S1 E5

07.09.26

What if the apps posting the best revenue screenshots are the ones nobody actually uses? In this episode of Growth by Design, we sit down with Seth Miller, founder and CEO of Rapchat, who spent 13 years building a consumer music app to 15M+ users and 100M+ raps recorded — then rebuilt the whole operation around AI agents. Drawing on a decade of consumer app building, a Series A, and the decision to get off the VC treadmill, Seth unpacks how to tell when your product has hit its ceiling, why UA-dependent businesses are more fragile than they look, and what changes when agents ship you TestFlights every day.

About the show

Growth by Design is a podcast for founders, product leaders, and growth teams who want to understand how the world's best apps grow — intentionally, systematically, and sustainably.

We sit down with performance marketers, product builders, researchers, and founders to explore what actually works behind the scenes: the experiments, the systems, the failures, and the turning points.

No hype. No overnight success stories. Just real conversations about building apps that grow by design — not by chance.

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